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Ohio Barbarian's avatar

You talked about the Ls and Gs of the past, but not of the present. Not once. Seems to me that the interests and desires of the LGB community don't have much in common with that of the TQIA bunch.

It's pretty easy to see why. The former are hardwired with different sexual preferences than most of us, just like some people have blue eyes and others brown. The others are making a conscious choice, or pretending to be something they are not.

The LGBs only wanted equal rights, the TQs, especially the Ts, demand supremacy, and they are the only ones being booted out of the military.

Just saying they shouldn't be lumped together because their interests are completely different, and the LGBs already won their fight for equality, and deservedly so. The end of the artificially manufactured, deliberately divisive, and very profitable transgender movement is very good for their long-term interests.

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Theodore Medicinedog's avatar

"I don’t think anybody should join or remain in the military." That statement, with which I agree, is all that really matters. The idea that anyone who is not a hyper-masculine, psychopathic, sociopathic murder-rapist should want to serve in the military is naive at best. The idea that such people should fight for the "right" to serve in an imperialist military that has no regard for human rights is not only laughable, it is disgusting.

"Serving" in the military does not serve any human values whatsoever. There is no compassion, conscience, empathy, honor, humility, integrity, or respect (for anything other than the chain of command) in the US military and hasn't been since at least 9/11.

I learned that the hard way while serving in Afghanistan and then domestically during Operation Katrina. That is precisely why I chose to ETS after 15 years of service--walking away from a promotion, retirement pension, and a $20,000 reenlistment bonus in 2005. It took me several years to regain my humanity after leaving the military, so why should anyone want to join such an inhuman institution simply to assuage their ego and externally affirm an internal identity? Preserving, protecting, safeguarding, and nurturing one's Humanity is far more important than externally affirming one's identity. Again, I learned that the hard way.

There is no changing an institution from within, certainly not from the bottom. And as we who served all know, service members are government property who have no rights. That is the reality that those trying to fight for LGBTQ+ rights in the military refuse to acknowledge.

There are options to military membership that offer real service and training and both recognize LGBTQ+ status and support it. One such example is the Socialist Rifle Association. Another option is to create something new instead of trying to fight the old. That way, you actually give those in the LGBTQ+ community a meaningful and safe option to military membership.

It has been widely expressed throughout modern times that whatever you give your energy to persists. If you're constantly fighting against discrimination or against war, then discrimination and war will persist. But when you start working to create an alternative, when you apply your energy toward the opposite, then you invite change. Is that not what we want? If so, then perhaps we need to reevaluate our priorities ... and redirect our efforts.

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